Pretty much what it says on the tin. Know we've got a fair few artists around at various skill levels, so I thought it might be nice if there were somewhere people could go to share helpful stuff and/or ask for help with things and suchlike, particularly for if people are practicing and not confident enough to try posting something to the hub outright yet [or practicing with non-hypno based content]

Not that my own personal approach to drawing lends itself to my actually giving crit, though [and i'm not so conceited as to think I'm all that anyway] but hopefully there'll be a few people suited to doing so who might be willing to lend a hand here and there.

Well in any case, without further ado, lets watch this thread sink like a stone.

Well this thread is going to sink like a-

oh you already went there, my job here is done

This thread better not sink before my arm recovers! D: I can always use feedback to keep improving.

You don't necessarily need to be a good artist to give a criticism on a drawing either, even if you can't draw you can still see if something is wrong.

I wouldn't mind lending a hand to newbies or getting some help myself.

I think going forward, this topic will work better if artists - be they new and shy, established and wise, or wherever in between - post links to their works and ask for critiques about those specific pieces.

I don't think people are going to feel comfortable going out of their way to offer critiques out of the blue to artists who might not be expecting them. Well, not anyone who has any meaningful criticism to give, that is ^^

Hmm, yes and no, tbh. I mean, being able to point out that something kinda' doesn't look right is a start, but I'd expect other artists to be more useful at actually knowing how to do something about that, generally speaking. [but hey if you're looking to get some help you could always put some stuff forward and see if this topic'll actually work or not, right? 8D;;]



Oh absolutely, I probably didn't make it too clear in the OP but that's essentially what I was thinking

That was what I was assuming we were going to do. xD

Don't we already have such a thread for general Tips? hypnohub.net/forum/show/2317

For more specific Feedback the comments of the picture in question is a better way to give feedback than to put it into a separate thread, where it might get overlooked.

If people are afraid to post they shouldn't be. Just post it and we will give our feedback so that v2 or v3 will be up to quality standards. No one is getting eaten alive just for not having a great first picture made.

Manip is right there in the thread title, I'm talking about images done from scratch.

Having a thread for it also allows for advice on WIPs or taking a look at someone's wider artwork outside of the scope of specifically hypno themed stuff.

Yeah, it seems rather unintuitive to go to a thread titled "manipulation tips and tricks" to get critiques and advice on hand-drawn art.

And thus, the war between Artists and Manippers continues.

But I have to agree, a creative area for artists to get feedback and further improve their skills in a constructive manner other then just a "I like it", "Looks good".
An environment that helps the artist improve and that is not just a place to get compliments sounds like a good idea.

We all need improving in some way

I do not disagree, but I do encourage people be critical of my art always, even if you aren't an artist. But I do like it when you artsy people are able to point out specifically the flaw with all your redlines and what not.

ANYWAY how about this hypnohub.net/post/show/37586/
What could I have done to make this good. Please critically rip me a new asshole.

I have no idea what is going on with that pillow.

Yeah, I figured one might say that, but this is also something that needs to be done in the comments, because the art of you guys is so vastly different (as it should be) so that making general feedback would be not helpful at all.

I think doing this on an artist by artist or picture by picture basis will be more helpful for each of you then combining it in one thread.


Noted. No more compliments for Darkhatboy guys, he is sick of them! :P
Btw the girls you draw are too fat - but you can draw arms now! :D


Sweat and drool. Wet/sticky clothes. Stronger contrast (it looks a little bit more like an oil painting than like an anime picture). Hair texture needs to be more complex. Redo the hand (size/anatomy). The best drawn part are the curvy areas (ass, breasts), but everything around it looks like you put a plain piece of cloth above it - ESPECIALLY the clothes like the socks and shorts can be improved a lot. It looks like your sketch before you painted it had mostly her figure in it and you did that well, but rushed the other parts instead of devoting time to them as well.

agree

though artists will be able to give clearer reasons of why the drawings are not so good


non-artist: "the drawing is too dark"
artist : "the drawings seems dim, you can use 'Level correction' layer on CSP to make it brighter and sharpen its colors, as well"



random tips :
look at other people's "art comparison" where they showcase an old picture getting redrawn, there, you can tell clearlier about 'what makes art good' :)

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also, why don't we do what zko did?


hypnohub.net/post/show/37...-erect_nipples-female_onl


any feedback welcome :3